Queen ‘surprised’ by Meghan and Harry’s royal title snub for Archie – expert

Meghan and Harry: Archie title snub 'strange' says Neil

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The Duke and Duchess of Sussex are said to have turned down the title of Earl of Dumbarton for Archie when he was born. Royal sources say the couple raised concerns over the word “dumb” in the name of the Scottish Town and how it may be perceived by others.

Prince Harry was made Earl of Dumbarton after he married Meghan in May 2018.

The title of Scottish nobility can be passed to his first-born son, who is now two-years-old.

Former royal butler, Grant Harrold has claimed the Queen, 95, would have been shocked at the decision by the Sussexes.

However, Mr Harrold added the Queen would have accepted the wishes of the couple not to use the title for their son.

He told “I am sure the Queen would have been surprised at their decision to turn down the title of The Earl of Dumbarton for their son Archie.

“But at the same time the Queen would respect their decision.”

Archie was born in May 2019 and was not made a prince due to rules set out by King George V.

Archie Harrison Mountbatten-Windsor could have used the courtesy title of Earl of Dumbarton but Meghan and Harry chose not to do so.

One royal source told the Telegraph: “They didn’t like the idea of Archie being called the Earl of Dumbarton because it began with the word ‘dumb’ [and] they were worried about how that might look.”

Another insider added: “It wasn’t just Meghan who pointed out the potential pitfalls, it also bothered Harry.”

The Earl of Dumbarton is a title of Scottish nobility, referring to Dumbarton in the area West Dunbartonshire.

The title was first created in 1675 for Lord George Douglas but became extinct in 1749 when Lord Dumbarton’s only son died.

It was recreated in the UK Peerage by the Queen as one of the two subsidiary titles for her grandson Harry, who became the Earl of Dumbarton and Baron Kilkeel when he tied the knot with Meghan.

Meghan raised the prospect of Archie not receiving an official royal title during the couple’s bombshell interview with Oprah Winfrey in March.

The Duchess claimed the palace did not want their son to be given the honour and insisted the move went against convention.

She said: “They didn’t want him to be a prince or princess, not knowing what the gender would be, which would be different from protocol, and (said) that he wasn’t going to receive security.”

Meghan went on to downplay the issue and insisted she did not care about “all the grandeur surrounding this stuff”.


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The Duchess added: “The most important title I’ll ever have is mum.”

The existing rules surrounding titles are based on a letters patent issued by King George V in 1917.

He declared great-grandchildren of the monarch would no longer be princes or princesses, except for the eldest son of the eldest son of the Prince of Wales.

This was changed by the Queen so Prince William’s other children Princess Charlotte, fourth in line to the throne, and Prince Louis, fifth in line to the throne, were granted titles.

As things stand, when Prince Charles becomes King, his grandson Archie, will then be entitled to become a prince.
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